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The Leopard version of my HTTPMail plugin for Mail can be downloaded from here. Please note that as with any first release with a new version of OS X things may not be as stable as I would like. It works on my machine ;)

I have updated the documentation to show screen shots from Leopard and overall the installation and setup procedures are a little more streamlined.

Enjoy

214 comments

214 Comments so far

  1. Chico November 14th, 2007 4:10 am

    It’s working great. Rescued my old mail box.
    Thank you

  2. daniel November 14th, 2007 4:14 am

    Excellent :) I’m glad it’s working for you :)

  3. ballchai November 14th, 2007 4:16 am

    I wake up this morning, and first thing i check is your web site, and make my day,
    it work like a champ, thanks!

  4. Fin November 14th, 2007 4:21 am

    Yay thanks!! =)

  5. Fin November 14th, 2007 4:23 am

    Works perfectly!! You’re a legend!!

  6. Bryan November 14th, 2007 4:34 am

    Lovely! Thank you sooooooo much!!

  7. Bruno November 14th, 2007 4:42 am

    Grrreat!! Thankss!!!!!!!

  8. John November 14th, 2007 4:54 am

    Daniel,

    Like so many around the world, since our Leopard upgrade, we have followed your progress with enthusiasm, going to your website each day. And now you have succeeded. I just installed it … seemless man!! Worked like a charm! You ROCK!! Thank you so very much. You have made my life so much simpler. There’s some $$ in PayPal for you.

  9. Daniel C November 14th, 2007 4:59 am

    it didnt work for me :(

    Mail freezes, and does not let me quit- not will it let me open mail again after i force quit.

    sorry to put a downer on what seems like such a successful plugin!

  10. op November 14th, 2007 4:59 am

    yo man. hook us up with paypal address. i got some dollars to send ya.

  11. G-Man November 14th, 2007 5:00 am

    Not working for me.

    How old does the account need to be to work?

    think that my be the problem

    regardless, most grateful for your efforts in releasing this. You my friend are the definition of a legend.

  12. Mason November 14th, 2007 5:01 am

    Thanks so much. Its working great!!

  13. Rupert November 14th, 2007 5:02 am

    Works great for me…now where is that donate button!

  14. op November 14th, 2007 5:03 am

    nevermind, i see the donate button :P

  15. Jelmer November 14th, 2007 5:06 am

    Works great
    Thanks alot!!

    From Holland.

  16. matty November 14th, 2007 5:18 am

    you rock
    thanks man

  17. Mark Fletcher November 14th, 2007 5:23 am

    Daniel! YOU DA MAN!!

    Great work sir, and thank you for updating this invaluable piece of software.

  18. Jussi November 14th, 2007 5:23 am

    Daniel, Just got OSX Leopard few days ago and you don’t know how much I’ve been waiting for your app to be ready for the past few days. Your efforts are much appreciated and I thank you very much!

  19. Andrea.Galileo November 14th, 2007 5:25 am

    Ur tha best!

  20. Maurits November 14th, 2007 5:30 am

    Thanks from holland it was posted on http://www.onemorething.nl (it’s a dutch site) (for mac fans)
    Thanks from holland!!! :)

  21. benjamin November 14th, 2007 5:30 am

    working perfectly,
    thanks for your hard work !!
    From Paris with love !

  22. Andrea.Galileo November 14th, 2007 5:36 am

    Could not connect to ‘hotmail.com’
    Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

  23. Andrea.Galileo November 14th, 2007 5:37 am

    is it normal?

  24. macgiorgosgr November 14th, 2007 5:53 am

    Thanks. I will put a link for it on our website.

  25. Remco November 14th, 2007 5:55 am

    Daniel, my hero!

    You’re plug-in is the best!! It works flawless! Greetings from Holland!

  26. Sidor November 14th, 2007 5:57 am

    Yes I have the same problem….
    But thank’s a lot it’s a good work

  27. Chris November 14th, 2007 5:58 am

    It works!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

  28. Ryan November 14th, 2007 6:00 am

    You rock! Thank you so much.

  29. Martijn November 14th, 2007 6:04 am

    Hi man
    The program is not working on my computer.. And i cannot anymore go to my account preference because the screen freeze.. So i cannot delete the hotmail account..

    What have i do??

  30. Peter November 14th, 2007 6:07 am

    THANKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. Peter November 14th, 2007 6:19 am

    Thanks from Holland. Great plugin I’ve used it for years now. First at Tiger and now, once again on Leopard.

  32. Javier November 14th, 2007 6:25 am

    Yey!!!!!

    Thank you man!!!

    I even have the messages from before leopard!! Great!!!
    $$$

  33. tom November 14th, 2007 6:26 am

    you did it again!
    cheers

  34. RK November 14th, 2007 6:28 am

    Works fantastically.

    The only issue I’ve noticed is that messages in the HTTPmail inbox don’t show up in smart mailboxes until they are moved.

  35. Yash Raj November 14th, 2007 6:29 am

    Dan …

    you rock man …… and thanks a ton for your work ….
    The plugin worked fine or i would say worked GREAT

    A BIG THANK YOU…

  36. Joao November 14th, 2007 6:33 am

    You should win the 2008 Nobel Prize.

    Thanks for everything… and the best wishes for your kids

  37. Salam November 14th, 2007 6:35 am

    Great Thanks. It is solved you are a champion. It worked beautifully as it was with Tiger.
    I wonder whether there is away to synchronize contacts between Mail Addresses and Hotmail contacts. Thanks again
    Salam- Australia

  38. Yves November 14th, 2007 6:45 am

    Hi Daniel,

    Haven’t tried it yet, cause I’m still at work (it’s almost 4pm on the other side of the ocean). I’m getting a hard time to stay @ work … boehoehoe!!! Looking forward to install your plugin tonight.
    Thnx a lot again for your efforts!!! Steve should pay you some dollars too.

    greetz & thnx from Belgium

  39. Caletz November 14th, 2007 6:52 am

    THanks! daniel! working and downloading! rite now :) all maills! – and old inbox was there :)

  40. Matthieu November 14th, 2007 7:03 am

    Rock on, thanks. Have you chosen not to go open source with this release?

  41. Raphael THURET November 14th, 2007 7:16 am

    Hi,
    thank you for that great job.
    I’m really happy now with Leopard, and everything is your responsability…
    I know that it don’t mean a lot for you but thank you.

  42. JS November 14th, 2007 7:20 am

    niiiice!!

    the readme is soo much better :-P :-D

    flawless.. installed, opened mail, and hotmail was right there waiting for me!!
    by the way, everyone, if you have a yahoo account, apple now supports it with every account, just add your email address and mail.app does the rest for you!

  43. Caletz November 14th, 2007 7:25 am

    Nice!, is there any chance, that you could make the leopard ”mail activity” to work>? you know for upcomming updates?

  44. daveT November 14th, 2007 7:28 am

    Excellent work Daniel.

    Its partially working for me. Only downloads the first 122 emails then hangs while still synchronising with hotmail. Then when restarting has to redownload them. Im sure i had the same problem in the Tiger version and found a work around that solved it. Just can’t remember it :D .

  45. Pui November 14th, 2007 7:39 am

    Thanks a lot. I look for it for a long time

    glad to u to make it

    From Thailand

  46. rob November 14th, 2007 7:42 am

    You are a star for you have done what MS couldn’t be bothered
    may you shine brightly

  47. Klaas November 14th, 2007 7:58 am

    Thx Daniel, you are amazing!

  48. Daniel November 14th, 2007 8:09 am

    question… when I upgrade to Leopard, should I uninstall the Tiger version of httpmail before I run Leopard and then install the Leopard version? Or leave it and just upgrade to the Leopard version when Leopard is installed?

  49. Juan November 14th, 2007 8:14 am

    Hi! Thanks alot! It works great with my hotmail.com address. It doesn’t work with my @windowslive.com account though :( Any chance to get that working? Maybe an idea for a next release? Sending mail does work btw, just the getting/synchronizing doesn’t (didn’t work in Mail for Tiger either).

  50. Isaac Aloysius November 14th, 2007 8:22 am

    You are my HERO.!! Muuuacks

  51. Dennis November 14th, 2007 8:23 am

    Your a champion !!!!!!!!

  52. Max November 14th, 2007 8:26 am

    Thank you so much!!!

  53. Marque November 14th, 2007 8:32 am

    Thanks Man!

  54. Tim November 14th, 2007 8:42 am

    Daniel,

    This is great!!! How do I give you money again?

  55. Yves November 14th, 2007 8:48 am

    You’re a godsend.

  56. Alan November 14th, 2007 8:52 am

    WOW! Daniel you did it! You’re great. Thanks a lot!
    Alan

  57. Enric November 14th, 2007 9:10 am

    it’s not working for me. sometimes it freezes my Mail app. It also keeps downloading emails from my hotmail inbox even after deleting them in Mail. Now, i’ve just noticed that all the emails are blank, too.

  58. Luke Mildenhall-Ward November 14th, 2007 9:17 am

    Perfect timing, Daniel. I just installed Leopard yesterday. Thank you so much for working so hard for us all.

  59. Yves November 14th, 2007 9:28 am

    Hi Daniel,

    Finally home … and it works :-) THNX A LOT AGAIN!!!

    cheers from Belgium

  60. Night November 14th, 2007 9:37 am

    GREAT, It works for me too. The only thing I had to do was to delete my old hotmail account which was still in Mail (archive & install of leopard). The old account didn’t work with the new httpmail bundle because the outgoing mailserver was set wrong (services.msn.com). However, when I figured this out, it now works like a charm!

    Thanks again Daniel! (Y)

  61. Claire November 14th, 2007 9:37 am

    I have this problem 2:

    Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

    Maybe that’s only with Windows Live Mail??

    Thanks anyway! I hope it will work for me soon as well….

  62. Adam November 14th, 2007 9:39 am
  63. MRK November 14th, 2007 10:04 am

    Thank you Daniel, you’re my saviour!

  64. Jeff November 14th, 2007 10:08 am

    have this problem 3:

    Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

    anyone have any ideas how to fix this?

    Thanks Daniel, you’re a champ

  65. Kris November 14th, 2007 10:10 am

    Daniel,

    Thanks for the effort. You’ve helped us al out!

    Kris

  66. Jon November 14th, 2007 10:19 am

    works like a charm. Didn’t even have to setup the account, after installing the plugin I guess Mail remembered everything and just set it up for me. Thanks again.

  67. Roy November 14th, 2007 10:59 am

    I also have this problem:

    Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

  68. Chazzer November 14th, 2007 11:03 am

    i love you

  69. Ron Starr November 14th, 2007 11:03 am

    Hi Daniel and everybody: I downloaded about 1,300 messages from the hotmail server, but nothing shows up in the viewing pane when I highlight a message, or when I double-click to open the message up. Anybody else have this problem? Thanks for the update, Daniel, nevertheless. It’s possible I’m doing something wrong. Ron

  70. 11ampgt November 14th, 2007 11:09 am

    Great work. Thanks a lot!
    Keep up the good work!

  71. Tim November 14th, 2007 11:11 am

    Fantastic stuff, Daniel. I’ve followed your work from the sidelines and you’ve done a great job.

    Thanks again!

  72. Ron Starr November 14th, 2007 11:16 am

    Oddly, messages in the “sent” folder are viewable, but none in my inbox or subfolders are.

  73. Hugojdb November 14th, 2007 11:42 am

    Thank you very much Daniel, it works perfectly.
    Great job !!
    thx

  74. john November 14th, 2007 11:47 am

    nice

    but one question

    everytime i delete something out of my mailbox and i quit and launch mail again

    those same emails get downloaded again from the server

    is there a way to permanently delete them through mail

  75. john November 14th, 2007 12:40 pm

    someone help me out???

    this is gettin annoying

  76. Alan November 14th, 2007 12:44 pm

    Everytime I quit Mail and restart it, the Hotmail account disappears.

  77. Enric November 14th, 2007 12:45 pm

    i had the same problem, john. seems you have to click on get mail after you view a message. then after that you can delete it and, same thing as before, let mail connect with the server and communicate that you’ve deleted it. after that it seems to work, i guess.

  78. Winston November 14th, 2007 12:53 pm

    thanks for all your work!!!

  79. MacRegor November 14th, 2007 12:54 pm

    IT’S WORKING! IT’S WORKING! IT’S WORKING! IT’S WORKING! IT’S WORKING!
    Man, I’ve been so anxious to get this plugin! I’ve been checking this blog every day, I thought the day wouln’t come. ^_^

    Many hugs and kisses from Barcelona!!! (Spain)

  80. Mark November 14th, 2007 12:56 pm

    i’m having the same problem as quite a few people seem to be having where it’s telling me to subscribe

  81. MacRegor November 14th, 2007 1:13 pm

    Hi John,

    To prevent Mail from downloading previously downloaded messages, do the following:

    In Mail preferences, go accounts tab, select the http one, and then click on Advanced, you will se there some useful configurations. One of them is a combo box that shows “Don’t change anything on the server” you can change that to “mark as read” or “delete messages from the server”. Then the messages aren’t downloaded again (at least this worked for me”

    As for the subscribing issue may be one of the limitations Daniel talked about (you can see it on the readme file) I didn’t have this issue, so I’m affraid I can’t help there, sorry.

  82. animatek November 14th, 2007 1:18 pm

    _Thnxs Danniel the plugin works perfectly!!!!!!!!!!

    hugs from Málaga (Spain!!!!)

  83. Ryan November 14th, 2007 2:10 pm

    Words cannot express the appreciation. You’re one of the good guys. Peace Be Upon You, brother.

  84. Equinox November 14th, 2007 2:44 pm

    Daniel! Thanks! Is working great! I love it. Thanks a lot.

  85. David November 14th, 2007 3:00 pm

    Thanks man

    you rock!

  86. Etienne November 14th, 2007 4:00 pm

    Thanks Daniel, it works fine on my mac for downloading messages.

    But I have the same problem than John that I didn’t have with the previous version of httpmail on Tiger: when I erase a message from my box in Mail, the message will be downloaded the next time I start Mail. On Tiger, when a message was in the trash on my computer, it was not downloaded again.
    In my mail preference setting, I use the option “Mark as read on the server” when I download a message, and I don’t want to switch to “delete the message from server” because I want to keep a copy on the web.

    Another time, thanks for your great job.

  87. Daniel M November 14th, 2007 4:26 pm

    I can not receive any incoming mail, I am able t send mail using my hotmail account using your plugin but i cant receive incoming mail, can anyone help?!?!

  88. John November 14th, 2007 4:32 pm

    i figured it out,

    thanks to some help from you guys

    just make sure the messages you delete arent marked as unread and go to your preferences>accounts>advanced> and set it to this “synchronize with server” this will make sure that whenever you delete something in “mail” it does the same on the server

    i tried the other ones “delete messages from server” sort of deleted everything out of my hotmail account.

    if this doesnt work the first time just mess around with it took some time for me

  89. nicolas November 14th, 2007 5:04 pm

    many thax!! buddy
    Great work, all the world were waitting…….
    CHILE

  90. Chris C November 14th, 2007 5:28 pm

    Thanks Daniel,

    As you probably already know, it’s still pretty buggy.
    Here’s some feedback to help you progress:
    It doesn’t seem to register when it’s already downloaded some emails for me, so when I delete some from the mail.app it just downloads them again. Only happens with some emails, but it’s a combination of wanted email and junk mail that this happens to. So when I open mail.app it tells me there are hundreds of NEW emails, but they are emails the I’d previously deleted from mail.app. By the way, I DO have “Mark downloaded emails as read” selected in preference>advanced, in case you’re wondering.

    Thank you so much for getting it to this stage though. I’m extremely grateful. You’re awesome!

  91. Chris C November 14th, 2007 5:43 pm

    Sorry, that “Synchronize with server” option post by John did the the trick for me. Seems to work pretty well now. Thanks

  92. Anthony November 14th, 2007 5:44 pm

    Well done, Daniel!! Very well done!! :)
    Thanks,
    A.

  93. Steph November 14th, 2007 6:22 pm

    Thanks a lot for the update! I was really looking forward to it. It’s the best Mail plugin ever! Sent you a donation for your effort. You’re the best!

  94. Said Shirazi November 14th, 2007 6:48 pm

    It didn’t work for me. When I open Accounts, I get a blank window and the system seems to hang. According to Force Quit, Mail is NOT not responding. It turns out that hitting ESC gets me out of it. It also created a new account called Null which I was unable to delete. Possibly the problem arose because I had Mail open the first time I tried to install it. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling it several times with no luck, and finally have uninstalled it for the time being. I guess I’ll check in regularly until you release the next version.

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  96. John November 14th, 2007 8:11 pm

    i too had that problem at first

    i just deleted mail and installed it again via the leopard install disk (optional install)

    after that it got to workin

  97. John November 14th, 2007 8:12 pm

    ^^^^that was for said btw

  98. J. Pyun November 14th, 2007 8:15 pm

    Daniel,

    Thank you!!! I think you just SAVED MY MARRIAGE! I feel a little responsible for spurring you on with my original post, but you can see how much everyone appreciates your amazing work.

    Again, thanks for saving the day as well as my hide! Now if you could only get MSN/Hotmail to work on my wife’s iPhone…!….and then maybe fix that leak in my laundry room, and figure out what’s wrong with my fridge, and….

  99. Chris November 14th, 2007 8:29 pm

    Great Man, thanks a bundle. Using Leopard’s mail app with hotmail results in me using the cool stationery for letters and leaves my friends very much in awe. Thanks again!

  100. robert Price November 14th, 2007 8:31 pm

    Thank you Dan!
    I will be deleting Entourage (what a piece of cap) immediately. This works seamlessly just as it did with earlier release. Hoping it will hold up through some of the nil string errors I used to get, but so far it is working well. Everyone should donate a few dollars to support this plugin and all of the hard work Dan put into this.

    Thanks again!

  101. robert Price November 14th, 2007 9:57 pm

    Where is the “donate” button? I’d love to send some $’s, Can someone point me in the right direction?

  102. Shane November 14th, 2007 11:19 pm

    I have the same problems as a few people above…

    “Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

    Anyone can help???

  103. Tom November 14th, 2007 11:30 pm

    Daniel,
    thanks for working on the plug-in.

  104. Winston November 14th, 2007 11:53 pm

    that synchronize with server tip from John, fixed up my delete problems, and also labelled all my messages in Hotmail as read. (which is exactly what i wanted!)

    thanks again Daniel

    Great work.

  105. Puccini November 14th, 2007 11:53 pm

    Dank je wel ! = Thanks in Dutch :-)

  106. Christian November 14th, 2007 11:59 pm

    Thanks so much Daniel! You’ve made my life easier!

  107. Charles November 15th, 2007 12:34 am

    Well done Champ!

  108. Maggotte November 15th, 2007 12:42 am

    It’s working !!! You rocks !!!

    Thank you a lot….

  109. Michael November 15th, 2007 12:49 am

    G*D D*MNIT! Microsoft have just change my hotmail account to Windows Live Mail….. You can only imagine how angry I am. Worst of all I won’t be able to use httpmail :+

  110. Winston November 15th, 2007 1:37 am

    Both my live accounts work fine.

  111. Fabrice November 15th, 2007 3:06 am

    Hi mate,
    Thanks for your amazing plugin !!!

    It works perfectly with my “@msn.com” email address, but, it doesn’t work with my “@hotmail.com” email address.

    I don’t know why…

  112. Rolph November 15th, 2007 4:33 am

    Thanks so much. What I liked the best that Mail recovered the Hotmail box presets from Tiger and my mail was visable again. Only the new messages were imported.

    This really is great! Thanks again!

  113. Jean-Matthieu November 15th, 2007 5:33 am

    I <3 U !!!!

  114. Jeff November 15th, 2007 6:21 am

    Michael Says:
    November 15th, 2007 at 12:49 am
    G*D D*MNIT! Microsoft have just change my hotmail account to Windows Live Mail….. You can only imagine how angry I am. Worst of all I won’t be able to use httpmail :+

    Why does httpmail not work with Live Mail?

  115. RK November 15th, 2007 6:44 am

    As far as I know, every Hotmail account has been transitioned to Windows Live, so that isn’t specifically the problem.

    Httpmail access has been grandfathered in to accounts, both Hotmail and Windows Live, that used it heavily, but any new accounts, and certain old accounts, will be unable to access their mailboxes through the system. It’s not Windows Live specific, it’s just another reason to begin transitioning away from Microsoft’s mail service now.

  116. Nabil November 15th, 2007 7:21 am

    Installed fine, but same problem as Alan… Every time I quit Mail and restart it, the Hotmail account disappears. Any suggestions… TIA.

  117. quentin November 15th, 2007 8:49 am

    THANK YOU SO MUCH, IT’S WORKING PERFECTLY. THANK ALSO YOUR FAMILY FOR THEIR PATIENCE!! ; )))
    QUENTIN

  118. Braden November 15th, 2007 9:18 am

    We can’t thank you enough. Great work!

  119. Shane November 15th, 2007 10:10 am

    Anyone care answering this question:

    “I have the same problems as a few people above…

    “Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email”

    I’ve had my Hotmail account since 2001. Is this still too new?? I really want to get this work! =(

  120. Jeff November 15th, 2007 10:49 am

    I don’t think it has anything to do with newness, I’ve had my hotmail account since 1999 and have the same problem. In perhaps a related problem, or not, does anyone else have trouble sometimes opening their hotmail page in Safari? Sometimes it just doesn’t work, I need to refresh Safari.

  121. Said Shirazi November 15th, 2007 12:17 pm

    Thanks, John, I got it working. I uninstalled the plug-in and reinstalled it. The problem was that when I created my accounts, I had left the “description” field blank. This created an account called NULL, which hung the system. Typing in “Hotmail” or something similar in that field solves the problem.

    I should mention that I just downloaded the Leopard fixes before trying this, but I don’t know if that was a factor.

  122. John November 15th, 2007 12:45 pm

    ^^thats exactly what i did wrong

    i too left the description field blank

  123. Alan November 15th, 2007 12:46 pm

    Somehow the problem I was having before (the Hotmail account would disappear after quitting Mail) has gone away. The only think I changed was John’s suggestion of Preferences>accounts>advanced “synchronize with server”. So, I’m not sure if that’s just a coincidence or if something else changed. In any event, it’s working perfectly for me now.

  124. Spartan-117 November 15th, 2007 1:14 pm

    Nice one ;) good job :)

  125. alan November 15th, 2007 2:36 pm

    thank you!

  126. Paul November 15th, 2007 2:54 pm

    Thank you so much Daniel. On installation, my old hotmail inbox immediately showed up in Mail, along with all the old messages, and I was able to download all the maill I had missed since upgrading to Leopard. I consider your new plugin well worth a small donation.

  127. Jan November 15th, 2007 4:55 pm

    hey~ really nice work!!!!
    now i can uninstall entourage!!!
    just wondering, why it does support live.com account =”=
    it seems live.com should have the same mail server as hotmail.com has…
    do you know why =P

  128. Elliott November 15th, 2007 5:38 pm

    It works great for me and when I use the sync with server everything is fine. My only problem is that when I add my hotmail account Mail turns into a processory/memory hog.

    The problem only seems to occur when I have the hotmail account enabled, and I have chosen ‘sync with server’, if I chose ‘mark downloaded messages as read’ the problem goes away.

  129. Luchio November 15th, 2007 6:04 pm

    hi everyone.. i have the

    “Could not connect to ‘hotmail.com’
    Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

    problem… could it be because the account isn’t old enough? it’s from july 2004… any ideas?

    P.S: Daniel, thank you so much for the pluggin!!!

    LLB
    (Argentina)

  130. MR November 15th, 2007 7:09 pm

    THANK YOU KIND SIR!

    These words don’t sufficiently express my gratitude for all your effort you put in to this. (bowing low)

  131. Jill November 15th, 2007 7:16 pm

    You’re a life saver and your efforts are much appreciated, my inbox/sent folders are as they were before the leopard debacle, better than I could have imagined!!!

  132. Alan November 15th, 2007 8:19 pm

    Like everyone, I worship at your temple. However, after early success w/Leoard, updating to 10.5.1 causes Mail to freeze and/or does not let me quit and/or will not permit address input in the “TO” pane.

    Thanks again, you rock.

  133. Simon November 15th, 2007 8:58 pm

    Love it! Seamless, even on my old Quicksilver :)

  134. PVP November 15th, 2007 11:03 pm

    Yet again the plugin does what it has to do.

    Thanks for all the time and effort you spent!

  135. Eddie November 16th, 2007 12:59 am

    You Rock!

  136. rodmud November 16th, 2007 3:41 am

    super thanks :)

  137. stone from the stoneage November 16th, 2007 5:44 am

    thank you! i’ve been looking for this! u made my day

  138. Mike Swat November 16th, 2007 7:43 am

    at me the circle always turns but nothing happens :?

    In check-mail-connections window it says “could not connect with httpmail-server, check network connection or settings in account” hmm in the littlesnitch network monitor there is no traffic showing that that httpmail account even try to connect something. can it be that there is something in leopard (firewall?) that filter the httpmail from doing outgoing connections ?

    i can not explain anything else… i get no “error window” or something it just trying to connect till dead.

    10.5.1, mail 3.1

    there was this other util macfreepops or something think it connect to live ? dunno if it is open source…

  139. Mike Swat November 16th, 2007 8:09 am

    hmm when i try the url http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp into safari he ask me 3 times for my login :

    host:bay130.oe.hotmail.com — port:80
    host:loginnet.passport.com — port:80

    maybe some people are already trying to find solutions and are at the same steps ?

    strLoginUrl = “http://mail.live.com/”,

    strDefaultLoginPostUrl = “https://login.live.com/ppsecure/post.srf”,

  140. tibo de paris France November 16th, 2007 8:31 am

    thank you very much

  141. Tim Ruhter November 16th, 2007 9:36 am

    Thank you so much your work is very much appreciated.

  142. Malvolio November 16th, 2007 9:45 am

    Doesn’t work here… I thought my hotmail account was old enough, because your plug-in worked on 10.4 but it doesn’t work now :-( bummer!

    Anyway, thanks for trying (I can see by the messages here that it does work most of the time – makes me wonder why it doens’t on my 10.5).

    Kind regards,
    Malvolio

  143. Mitchell Edwards November 16th, 2007 11:41 am

    How come old messages (saved into other folders on the website) show up in the inbox and junk, one’s that I read ages ago, say unread.

  144. Felix November 16th, 2007 2:22 pm

    THANK YOU!!!!!! :) I THOUGHT I HAD TO CHANGE MY WHOLE EMAIL ADDRESS!!!!

  145. Thibault November 17th, 2007 12:33 am

    Thank you so much for HTTP Mail

  146. F November 17th, 2007 4:57 am

    Works perfectly for me!
    Great Work! THNX!!

  147. JJ Lalanne November 17th, 2007 8:12 am

    Thank you so much, great job.

  148. gav November 17th, 2007 11:31 am

    will this work with .co.uk? do i need to change anything?

  149. gav November 17th, 2007 12:50 pm

    sorry for all the posts, i have the plugin working perfectly on my macbook, .com account, my dad is on a .co.uk account and he is getting the same message as some of the other people posting here, the “outlook accounts now need to have a subscription” thing.

    are you working on a fix for this? I know you have worked your socks and i am happy with mine cheers, but my dad is having issues contacting me.

    cheers again for working so hard.

  150. rami November 17th, 2007 1:29 pm

    It’s really great job .. thanx

    It was work great two days ago with my Windows Live Hotmail (@hotmail.com) send+sync.+receive :)

    but today I was unable to connect “Could not connect to … Authorization Required”

    HTTPMail Debug window (partial)
    ———————————————
    Got response HTTP/1.1‭ ‬401‭ ‬Authorization Required
    header = Connection‭: ‬close
    header = Date‭: ‬Sat‭, ‬17‭ ‬Nov 2007‭ ‬21:19:48‭ ‬GMT

    header = WWW-Authenticate‭: ‬Digest realm‭=”‬hotmail.com‭”,

    header = X-Dav-Error‭: ‬401‭ ‬Wrong email address‭..

    I use this url http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp and it ask at 3 level to enter my username and password …. is it normal behavor ? or did they make some changes?

    thank you Daniel

  151. rami November 17th, 2007 1:31 pm

    It’s really great job .. thanx

    It was work great two days ago with my Windows Live Hotmail (@hotmail.com) send+sync.+receive :)

    but today I was unable to connect “Could not connect to … Authorization Required”

    HTTPMail Debug window (partial)
    ———————————————
    Got response HTTP/1.1‭ ‬401‭ ‬Authorization Required
    header = Connection‭: ‬close
    header = Date‭: ‬Sat‭, ‬17‭ ‬Nov 2007‭ ‬21:19:48‭ ‬GMT

    header = WWW-Authenticate‭: ‬Digest realm‭=”‬hotmail.com‭”,
    … 
    header = X-Dav-Error‭: ‬401‭ ‬Wrong email address‭..

    I use this url http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp and it ask at 3 level to enter my username and password …. is it normal behavor ? or did they make some changes?

    thank you Daniel

  152. James in Boulder November 17th, 2007 2:51 pm

    Not only does this thing work, but the minute it installed, it new all my settings from my G4 Tiger OS X that I transfered and immediately started working. In other words, I did not have to re-set it up. Amazing and thank you Daniel!

  153. Tyler November 17th, 2007 3:41 pm

    Works ok I can send mail but cannot download it….?

  154. Eitan November 17th, 2007 7:55 pm

    me too i can send messages but cannot receive messages

  155. Lonette November 18th, 2007 8:35 am

    Super, Thx, it works briljantly, finally.

  156. Lonette November 18th, 2007 9:26 am

    only with me too it keeps picking up all the already received and deleted messages time after time, what can be done about that?

  157. Eitan November 18th, 2007 9:32 pm

    how do i get it to revive my hotmail messages???

  158. Rolph November 19th, 2007 4:28 am

    Same problems here with picking up old messages. So hopefully an updated version is on the roll. It works, but as smooth as the Tiger version.

    Also I keeps pinging (sound) after a check of new messages, even if there are none…

  159. Ivo November 19th, 2007 5:06 am

    Dude.. You ROCK..!!!

    Like so many others I’ve been waiting for this..

    There will be some $$ coming your way for your effort..

    Thanks..

  160. andy November 19th, 2007 9:23 am

    THANK YOU.

    We are forever grateful for the work you do.
    I had to use macfreepops before this and it was a pain in the *****

    Once again thank you

  161. Nabil November 19th, 2007 9:44 am

    Please help… Each time I quit Mail and restart it, the Hotmail account disappears. I deleted the preferences, reinstalled Mail, reconfigured it, but nothing help… The hotmail disappear again on restart Mail. Any suggestions… please..!

  162. Daniel November 19th, 2007 12:06 pm

    so how do I upgrade to Leopard? Should I uninstall httpmail in Tiger, and then install the Leopard version once I have Leopard loaded? Or leave it, and install the Leopard version on top of the old one once Leopard is loaded?

  163. Walter November 19th, 2007 7:32 pm

    Installed fine, Recognized the old hotmail mailbox from Tiger, BUT… keeps downloading the same messages over and over again. Does not seem to mark the messages as read or deleted. Un-installed… will wait for 1.5.1. Keep up the good work.

  164. Erik Houllier November 20th, 2007 9:03 am

    You just save my Hotmail mailbox, all my work, all my files, everything… I can sleep relief and calm now… Thank you
    from Paris

  165. Robert November 20th, 2007 1:42 pm

    THANKKKKKSSSSS!!! Daniel it’s works worderful..

  166. Bast November 21st, 2007 12:08 am

    It doesn’t work on my Macbook Pro… sorry
    But thanks for the good work!

  167. Lars November 21st, 2007 1:00 pm

    Thanks for a great program. It seems when I read and delete email in the Mail application they don’t become marked as read or become deleted in my Hotmail.

    Thanks, Lars (Mac OS X 10.5.1, MacBook Pro)

  168. James November 21st, 2007 4:32 pm

    Daniel, I have one issue with the HTTP mail. When I delete email from my Mail account, sometimes the emails get loaded back into Mail. Is there something I can do alter that setting?

    Thanks,
    James

  169. James November 21st, 2007 6:12 pm

    I see the suggestions. I don’t have “delete messages from server” option though. I made a change, and we shall see.

    Either way, my life is way better off having this plug-in. Thanks.

  170. Greg L November 21st, 2007 7:58 pm

    The plugin works great!!! Thank you sooo much! You’ve pulled from the depths of Entourage and into Mail…. auh life is good!

    I mentioned your blog and your newest HTTPMail program in my blog!

  171. Joris E November 21st, 2007 11:46 pm

    Thanks Daniel for the great work !

    It seemed to work fine for days, but……

    I just discovered that Mail.app kept downloading (or trying to download) messages from the inbox and some subfolders. I found this out after suddenly and unexpectedly reaching my download limit (12GB). In the mail.app activity window, it indeed showed that mail tryed to sync mailboxes over and over. NetMonitor showed that while doing this, the application was downloading 10MB in about 2 minutes. After quitting mail, the download activity stopped…
    Quite a nasty hidden bug; I hope it gets fixed in the next update… Thanks again.

  172. Hans De Geetere November 22nd, 2007 8:22 am

    When I install the plug in than the mail program is not working any more…..

    Waiting for version 1.51

  173. Fish November 22nd, 2007 4:21 pm

    You just kicked away the only reason I could have to regret Tiger.
    Thx a lot dude.

  174. joe November 22nd, 2007 8:34 pm

    Daniel-
    Thanks for your product, i love it and it has always worked great. The 1.50 update will download my messages into mail.app, but after i delete them from mail.app, they are once again downloaded from hotmail when it syncs up. It has never done that before. Any advice?

  175. Michiel November 23rd, 2007 3:23 am

    After updating to 10.5.1 last night httpmail stopped working. Mail.app is updated to 3.1
    Now It doesn’t download the new messages from hotmail anymore.
    It does actually download something.. I guess its the synchronizing bug described above. Constantly downloading something at an average of 50KB/s . Mail also doesn’t quit anymore.

    A nasty bug which needs attention. besides that… thanx for all the effort. great little plugin.

  176. sibejan November 23rd, 2007 3:48 am

    Thanks very much – it works more or less..
    Like the previous posts it keeps on downloading, and so keeps the processor busy.
    Another strange thing is that i adjusted httpmail to synchronize, but later i changed this to “mark downloaded mail as read” – but still the (ctrl-clickable) options display “synchronize ‘hotmail’”.
    Hopefully you will get this fixed soon – for now, i just deactivate my hotmail-accounts – and download them manually every once in a while.

  177. Hans De Geetere November 23rd, 2007 3:49 am

    Same problem

    After updating to 10.5.1 last night httpmail stopped working. Mail.app is updated to 3.1
    Now It doesn’t download the new messages from hotmail anymore.

  178. Benbro November 23rd, 2007 5:29 pm

    Daniel, you’re a genius. My wife was quite unhappy when I went Leopard and she lost her Mail.app hotmail…
    And now I can even stop the messages from reloading after deletion.

    You are a man amongst men. If I could find your paypal details I’d send you some cash – where do I find the donate button?

    Cheers

    A very happy Ben B

  179. Bruno November 23rd, 2007 6:42 pm

    Daniel, I’ve been using it for a while now, a few days ago I’ve updated to 10.5.1 and today I can’t even open Mail.app. I think there is a serious prblem with the last .1 update. Regards.

  180. Keegan November 24th, 2007 10:52 pm

    Hey,
    The only thing that would make this better is if it could somehow take my contacts from my hotmail account and add them into Address Book. Is there a way to do this?

    Thanks

  181. Eric November 25th, 2007 12:02 am

    G Day Daniel,
    The httpmail plugin appears to work extremely well with 10.5. However, since the 10.5.1 update I am having issues opening mail.app. The issues appear similiar to those previously submitted in relation to this problem.
    Hooroo

  182. Said Shirazi November 25th, 2007 6:20 am

    I have a new issue. I have both gmail and hotmail accounts in my Mail program. At first, Mail is able to check both, but pretty quickly the gmail accounts stop working and I have to disable the hotmail accounts and restart to get the gmail accounts working again.

  183. Greg L November 25th, 2007 6:33 am

    Everything is still working great for me. I am running 10.5.1 and Mail 3.1 and I’m using Mail to check a Gmail account and my Hotmail acct and it is all working very smoothly!! Thank you so much Daniel!

    I’ve had my Hotmail acct since around 2000 so maybe that helps. I used to check it in Entourage but don’t have Office on my new Macbook yet.

  184. Christopher November 26th, 2007 8:51 am

    Having HTTPMail on my Mac made all the difference in the world. I could tie in my Hotmail accounts like a breeze. Since I upgraded to Leopard it’s not very happy with HTTPMail. I have to restart Mail all the time now and it’s constantly downloading multiple duplicates of the same mail. I’ll get hundreds of the same thing over and over.
    It’s such a great program though. I can’t wait until these last kinks are worked out.
    Thank you for your hard work.

  185. Jason November 26th, 2007 9:16 am

    Although I absolutely love this plug-in, I have been having problems with this new version and leopard. It is continuously searching for new mail, and will use up 50% of my CPU power. This drains my battery in about 45 min. This makes it unusable for me. I eagerly await an updated version. Thanks so much for working on this. It is greatly appreciated.

  186. gav November 26th, 2007 11:03 pm

    Hi there, some of you are talking about an updated version already? Where did you get that from? Are we sure that Daniel will be updating this? He’s done a shed load of work already….can noone else take up the task?

  187. Anders November 27th, 2007 7:36 am

    I keep getting this message when trying to access my msn account via Mac mail.

    ” Could not connect to ‘msn Account’
    Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

    Any ideas for me?

    Cheers!

  188. Rodney November 27th, 2007 10:51 pm

    I can’t find any place to download the new plugin….what happened?

  189. Christopher November 28th, 2007 5:15 am
  190. Serg November 28th, 2007 5:15 am

    Thanks Daniel, great job!!!

    To the guys with problems. Read all the posts…..you will find the answer there (if the problem is than mail keeps downloading your email over and over)

  191. Steph November 29th, 2007 12:51 am

    Thanks Daniel, great effort.
    I installed the plug in but unfortunately when mail tries to connect with the Internet, it always sais: Could not connect to ‘msn Account”. I am very frustrated because I did everything correctly according to the instructions. I asked in a Mac shop and they just said, well change the account….
    Can someone help me please, because I would like to keep my account
    Thank you

  192. Wilson November 29th, 2007 11:18 am

    Thank you.

  193. Erkki Punapää December 4th, 2007 1:53 pm

    Hi Daniel & thanks for your good work!
    For those desperately trying to view their messages after they suddenly disappear, try:
    incoming server: hotmail.com
    username: remove the @hotmail.com just keep your username.
    It worked for me very nicely :)
    Found it on here: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1455648&forum_id=255104
    comment by Jauwaad.

  194. Ergolad December 10th, 2007 2:20 pm

    No matter what I do, can’t get items to delete, they just come right back up next time I check my mail. Have tried suggestion in FAQ, which is very clear, to use the “Erase Deleted Messages”item from the “Mailbox” menu or press ⌘K. No joy. Followed others suggestions to use the option “Mark as read on the server”, still no joy. Have tried “synchronize with server.” I too don’t want to switch to “delete the message from server” because I want to keep a copy on the web. Finally I always make sure to check mail after I’ve read it and then I delete and then I check again… Still no joy. There must be a universal clear way to set this thing to get it to work. FYI- I have a paid Hotmail account.

  195. Ergolad December 10th, 2007 2:24 pm

    Think I finally got it. Will post once it proves reliable.

  196. Ergolad December 18th, 2007 3:36 am

    Sync with server was the big winner. Seems to be some issue with deleting mail. From what I can tell if you empty the trash before checking your mail, it will DL again. Others have pointed this out as well. Tried changing the TRASH setting to move the deleted messages to the Trash mailbox. No matter. Basically I just don’t empty my Hotmail trash, and let the server dump it as it does periodically.

  197. John Kirby December 26th, 2007 6:54 am

    Anytime I try to send, I’m getting “*** -[NSURL initWithString:relativeToURL:]: nil string parameter”. I tried a workaround by using oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com (port 25) as the outgoing server, but this timed out.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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  199. John O'Brien January 12th, 2008 12:11 pm

    iMac G5, used your plugin for years for 2 hotmail accounts. Installed Leopard, and downloaded 1.51, but I think something is off with the installation-the installation box keeps on running, even though the message ‘Installation successful’ displays very quickly. And the htpp option does not appear on trying to set up a new hotmail account (which I assume I have to do because Mail in Leopard does not support my old backed up hotmail accounts), and the account set-up says it cannot connect with hotmail.com (I had tried using POP since htpp was not on view as an option).

    Any advice welcome and will be financially recognized if successful!

  200. Corina January 14th, 2008 7:25 am

    Daniel! How are you? Once I click on “here” this message appears “The page cannot be found”. Do you know why? Do you have another link that I could use? Thank you in advance!

  201. Aaron February 9th, 2008 12:19 pm

    It seems like this link is old news. Go to :

    http://www.automagic-software.com/downloads.php

    for the newest version.

    Thank you very much Daniel.

  202. Mark E February 21st, 2008 3:45 pm

    Its not working. It will not pull any mail or send it. It tried to load it 3 times but all 3 stay offline.

  203. Ben March 4th, 2008 2:03 am

    Hi Daniel,

    Is there a way of having sent mail downloaded to the local machine without removing it from the remote server? I selected the ‘download sent mail’ preference and now have empty sent items boxes on my hotmail accounts.

    Thanks!

  204. Aashim Soni March 27th, 2008 12:59 pm

    Hi, I am using leopard 10.5.1 and your plugin v1.5.1, I am not able to download mails from hotmail but I am able to send it, what am I doing wrong? Please help…..

    Thanks

  205. JD March 30th, 2008 5:10 pm

    Hi Daniel,

    First off thanks for your work and dedication to helping others. I am haveing a small issue regarding the Tiger version of Mail.app and the HHTP Plug verson 1.49.

    For some reason since I have been usng your plugin I have several little things that may or may not be my fault.
    1. Mail.app does not remember changes in the HTTP preferences settings . In other words if I check several of the boxes in your HTTP control area and quite mail and restart mail, none of the changes I made in the preferences are how I changes them, they revert. Also Mail does not remember if I change the order of how the mailboxes appear.

    2. Recently the Mail app will show I have new messages etc. At times I can select the mail box displaying there are new messages. I will click on a message and read it, then if I go to another mail box etc, and return to the hotmail inbox the messages disappear as if they have been deleted (although they weren’t.)

    3. Now to make matters worse, the Hotmail inbox in the Mail.app will say there is a new message but as soon as I click on the mailbox (showing a numeral for the number of messages within it) all of the messages disappear without me even seeing them period. They are stilll online at Hotmail, but they no longer show up in the Mail.app.

    Now I know it is probably too late to get any help regarding these matters, but I can not afford to move everything to Leopard etc.

    Once again I commend you on all your work and any help would greatly be appreciated.

    Best wishes,

    JD( o}===;;;

  206. Rory April 6th, 2008 11:43 am

    For those with httpmail delete problems this is what worked for me…

    1) If you don’t want to keep any emails in hotmail you can just choose “Delete downloaded messages” on the advanced account options. Everything is deleted when downloaded so no problems there.

    2) If you want to keep mail on hotmail and just delete specific mails then choose “Synchronize with the server” instead. I’ve found the key to getting this setting to work is to NOT use the “Erase Deleted Messages’ in Mail until after a synchronize has occurred. From the look of it the plugin’s delete functionality is really a synchronize between the trash folder in mail and the deleted items folder in hotmail. So your deleted mails need to be in the trash when a synchronize happens for things to work.

    Personally I have set my “Permanently erase deleted messages when” setting to “One Month” to make sure a synchronize will always happen before the messages are erased from Mail. You can always hit the “Get Mail” button anytime to force the synchronize early if you want to tidy up manually.

    Hope that works for people….

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  208. Leslie Bocskor June 22nd, 2008 6:16 am

    I am having problems with getting httpmail to update with received mail.
    I do not know why.
    Please help! I hate having to go to the MS website to get my mail! :-(
    Leslie

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  210. Søren September 23rd, 2008 5:18 am

    First of all: Thank for the plugin. Very nice.

    I cannot figure out to “download contents of sent items folder from remote server” Tried everything, but cannot figure it out. I am on Macbook pro 17′ leopard 10.5.5.

    Anybody solved this one?

    Regards,

    Søren

  211. Eric October 9th, 2008 12:00 pm

    I delete the messages in mac mail under the hotmail account, then they go to the trash that is for my hotmail account then when I try to delete the messages by pressing “command k” An error message pops up saying that ” The Trash mailbox could not be created on the mail server. The local deleted messages (Hotmail Account) mailbox was created instead.” Then it goes on to say that mac mail has changed my account’s mailbox behaviors preferences to us the local deleted messages folder. There is a triangle with and ! in the middle of it right next to the Hotmail Trash. any help would be great to solve this. When ever i delete the messages then close and reopen mac mail then they all load back into my inbox. I am on a powerbook G4, running OS X 10.5.5. I have also updated to plugin 1.52. Thanks

    Eric

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  213. Lohdy May 3rd, 2009 11:46 pm

    Hey Daniel:

    You appear to be a master and or genius so here goes a question for you….you may have previously addressed this on your blog. I have a POWERBOOK G4 with OS X version 10.4.11 on it. I have been using Entourage for my mail program for the last 5 years. I have Microsoft Office 04 /Entourage 11.0.0 and yes, I’m a little behind the times with my software. I need newer versions all around…including my operating system. I know Microsoft and Apple definitely don’t always gel smoothly; however I felt Apple Mail’s program needs reworking. I don’t have Leopard installed yet; waiting to get a new Mac Book Pro.

    So Entourage has been randomly but continually and intermittently reloading old messages back into the mail program and duplicating the message several times. I had to quit out of the program this evening because it was downloading 800 old messages. I can’t seem to find a way to stop this function aside from quitting out of the program. When I relaunch Entourage it starts all over. It’s driving me NUTS. I’ve done some research and see that this is a problem with Entourage. I just want this to stop as it’s becoming tedious and taking up hard drive space. Can you please offering any insight to stop the downloading?? Thanks so much for your time.

  214. Jaun Millalonco July 1st, 2009 10:37 am

    My first visit here, found the blog accidentally really, and I just wanted to say I’ve enjoyed my visit and had some good reads while here :)
    Juan

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